Sunday, July 04, 2010

Family Practice is Dying (and it's not their fault)

This is going to be controversial. I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, but I do think that this is an issue that should be discussed.

Ok. Time for everybody to face reality. Family medicine as a "specialty" is dying. It's nobody's fault, but it's time to close the residencies and to redirect the medical students into other fields.

I didn't always think this way. I trained with some really amazing family practice docs because my ob/gyn residency also offered a family practice 1 year "c/s fellowship" so that family medicine docs could get cesarean section privileges.

However, what I've seen in the last almost 1 year as an attending at a hospital with a large number of fp docs with both ob and c/s privileges has changed my mind about the entire existence of family practice. Most of these docs, when they practice ob/gyn, don't really know what they're doing. They don't understand that a peripartum cardiomyopathy is a dilated cardiomyopathy. If a patient who had a baby 3 months ago has impaired diastolic relaxation, hypertension, and a low EF, that's not a peripartum cardiomyopathy. That's diastolic heart failure. That's a beta blocker deficiency in many cases. It's related to the patient's underlying severe chronic hypertension, not to their pregnancy.

They think it's appropriate for family practice docs to do complicated cesarean sections. Fourth and fifth repeats. Previas. They fail to refer moms with hemodynamically significant cardiac lesions to perinatology. They fail to offer 17 hydroxyprogesterone, or to send patients for a consultation to evaluate if they're candidates, when these patients have had very preterm deliveries.

There are a few docs who understand obstetrics enough to stay within their scope of care, but most of the family docs at our hospital go far beyond a reasonable family practice scope of care in ob/gyn (which should be limited to normal pregnancies). The problem is, their training in ob is just a few months (ok, maybe 6 months total if they complete the c/s fellowship which includes a lot of other stuff, it's marketed as a rural medicine fellowship). With that little training, they can't hope to have an appreciation for everything that can go wrong. I had over 1000 c/s under my belt before I graduated from residency. I did almost 2000 vaginal deliveries, 200 operative vaginal deliveries (prob about 100 forceps/100 vacuums). For a doc to think that they can do what a general ob gyn can do with about 10-20% as much operative experience is ludicrous. The answer then, would be for family docs who want to do ob/gyn to confine themselves to completely normal obstetrics, and arrange for an ob/gyn backup. The other problem is that there's no good compensation model for this, unless a procedure is required. Even then, in obstetrics, it's usually all about the global fee. So in some cases, the family practice docs risk loosing payment for the entire pregnancy if the patient is delivered by someone else. These global fees can get unbundled, but the person who provided the prenatal care invariably gets the short end of the stick when the fees get unbundled. Not only that, but malpractice costs can often provide a perverse incentive for FPs to practice outside of their scope of practice.

Once a doc's attentions are diverted to their entire practice and they're taking care of men, women, children, pregnant women, etc, maintaining competence within their scope of practice also dictates that they practice a very limited scope of practice. Physician training is so expensive that it may not make economic sense to train a bunch of docs who will then go on to have limited scopes of practice in several different fields. And while a lot of patients don't have complex medical needs (although many do), when you only have very shallow training in multiple fields, how do you know when a pregnant woman is sick? How do you know when a child is sick? It's experience that really allows people to see where the line between ok and not ok is and where you can really intervene and make a difference.

If people really wanted to have a limited practice and do well child checks and sore throats and uncomplicated hypertension and diabetes, that would likely be reaosnable but economically unsustainable. In any case, what I see are family practice residents who want to do procedures. They spend 6 weeks in Dillingham, Alaska doing colonoscopies. They ask if they can come do amniocenteses with me. They want to do my versions and operative deliveries with me. And I have to say "no", because these are procedures family practice docs should not be doing. The risk of complications with amniocentesis is higher with people who are less experienced. Version success rates are higher with more experience. And seriously? No family practice doc will be doing my next colonoscopy. Those are rightly in the hands of gastroenterologists who will be doing the treatment for abnormal findings. I suspect it is a search for higher reimbursement that drives these trainees to attempt to gain competence in procedures outside a reasonable scope of practice.

Now if we lived in a society that valued maintaining wellness as much as treating disease, well, it might be a different story. But even with respect to wellness, I don't think that the family practice docs would be any more effective at helping me loose my prednisone pudge (the almost 90 lbs I gained after 3 years on prednisone). I would be willing to guess that their scores with other types of wellness management would be similar to other primary care types (like internists and pediatricians). I do think that you do need to be able to spend real time with people in order to help them learn how to take care of themselves. Lecturing people about self control for 3 minutes is not helpful. Helping them learn what they can do to positively impact their health is helpful, but it also takes time that nobody in the US (including the patients themselves in many cases) are willing to pay for.

The advantage of the nature of training of family practice docs is that they have (if only brief) exposure to a wide variety of medical circumstances, which means that they may be even better than other primary care types (like internists) at quarterbacking the care of patients with lifelong chronic ilnesses, especially as they negotiate the transition into adulthood. However, this may not require visits, but it requires time in the office and phone calls (neither of which are things that our society cares to compensate doctors for because, you know, can't anybody make a phone call? *sarcasm intentional*).

So, the two natural niches of family practitioners, wellness and quarterbacking the care of patients with multiple medical problems, are not valued by our society at least in any monetary way.

But, attempting to extend their scope of care into procedures that are outside of a reasonable scope of practice for a fp doc will not fix this problem. I learned how to do appies in residency, just like anybody who operates in the pelvis does. However, if I get into trouble with an appendectomy or if I were to start an appendectomy and run into a different surgical problem in the abdomen, well, I just don't have the training for that. So I don't do appies. I leave them to the general surgeons. Doing c/s, colonoscopies, etc in an urban setting is simply deviating from the heart of what family practice is supposed to be. And the problem with doing them in a rural setting is that well, very few of the fp docs I know want to move to a rural setting (although those that do practice in a rural community without easy access to a tertiary care hospital seem to be exceptionally sharp), becuase well, no cable, no DVR, no ballet, no museums, no REI stores, etc.

For the record, a lot of the "scope of practice" stuff wouldn't apply to a rural area. If a patient needs a c/s and the local family doc is the only doc in.. .say... Coldfoot, Alaska I would want that doc to be able to do something. But in an odd coincidence, none of the "rural medicine" fellows are actually headed out to rural medicine. If they were actually going to go do rural medicine, I would have no problem with a more extended scope of practice, because even if they haven't had enough experience to be super skilled, they may still be the best option for many situations.

However, that's not the type of practice most family practice docs are training for. Most family practice residents are training for a practice model that doesn't actually exist in any compensated way.

46 comments:

#1 Dinosaur said...

Sorry; still not buying it. Once again a specialist bemoaning the fact that FPs will never know as much as they (duh) while using examples of FPs acting badly (beyond their scope of practice; training for "rural medicine" without following through) to besmirch the entire specialty. We may indeed be dying out, but your observations about Americans' unwillingness to pay us appropriately is the true proximate cause.

Christie B. said...

What would you see as the difference between the scope of practice for a mid-level provider versus a family practice doc? For instance, except in a very rural location, what pregnancies should a family practice doc manage versus a CNM?

medstudentitis said...

I think we are all being tarred with the same brush here. I do low-risk obstetrics as part of my practice but would never think of doing anything but assisting at a c/s - why does the fact that some other people behave badly mean that my specialty is dying? There are many FDs who do nothing but family medicine and are very good at it and don't feel the need to do otherwise, even though the remuneration may not be ideal. Maybe it's an American thing...

Dr Synonymous said...

A narrow scope specialist using a narrow lens to judge a broad generalist specialty. Not very helpful if you like to judge the quality of evidence before making a decision. You fail the evidence-based specialty bias course. Better luck after improving your decision making skills. I agree with Dinosaur.

Sara said...

Sorry to hear this, for a lot of reasons. You might be right. I know I'm likely to be replaced by a nurse practitioner at some point.

gurdonark said...

I believe that family practice should be nurtured and grown, not shuttered.
The prior system in which primary care was the primary delivery system produced a good health care situation at a lesser cost. The problems you cite could be remedied with less extreme measures than abolishing family practice. My view is that the move away from the primary care doctor has caused a negative impact on the cost of our health care system and its delivery to those with less money.

That's not to take away from your point that family practitioners should understand what to do, and what not to do. But that doesn't mean we have to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Anonymous said...

I'm a patient whose internist retired, so I've been looking for a new PCP. I've never gone to an FP, but I've got a daughter who is a physician (3000 miles away) and many friends in the business.

I've taken her comments about FP training & the kinds of students who go into that specialty into consideration. I'm also a pharmacist who sees prescribing practices from internists & FPs. There really is a difference!

At my age, which is long past the OB age, I'd never go to an FP. Ultimately, they refer out complicated cases, in my experience. Fortunately, I'm healthy right now, but I want a skilled internist who is not diverted with OB & peds patients. When I was doing those things, I wanted my OBs & pediatricians to be doing only those things.

Just my humble opinion and personal preferance.

medstudentitis said...

Wouldn't you want someone to take care of your who is a specialist in preventative care? I.e. a family physician and let the internists focus on the complicated individuals? I find that internists are very good with pathology but when it comes to primary preventative care maintenance, family docs know their stuff! Maybe that's because I practice in a country where internists ONLY see complicated medical patients. They don't follow healthy people.

Anonymous said...

Interesting, as ACOG just recommended that 13-15 yo girls visit an OB/GYN TWICE a year (!) to discuss: puberty, menstruation, healthy eating habits, sexually transmitted disease and pregnancy prevention, sexual orientation and gender identity.

All of these topics could easily be discussed by a FP, especially if the girl is not sexually active. Besides, OB/GYNs make lousy PCPs, in my experience. They're specialists, and I'll never see one again unless I have a problem directly related to my reproductive tract.

Anonymous said...

Twice a year? Sounds like a reimbursemnet issue to me..
Not buying it either. There are still lots of good FPs who do normal obstetrics or none at all, and do it very well.

Kevin said...

It's all about the payment model. If you practiced in a risk sharing multispecialty group pulling down the big $$ salary because you're a specialist, you'd be teaching these FPs and making them better so you could sleep while they we up delivering babies all night. Then you'd take them aside and say you really should have done this, this and this rather than that. So they would learn, get better and you would sleep like a baby while getting twice or three times as much salary directly deposited the first of the month into your bank account. But since you see them as competitors and your knowledge and skills are so superior, you just call them dumbshits. You are just like everyone else, driven by the financial incentives of the current marketplace. It has nothing to do with OB vs. FP or quality patient care. Just maximizing your profit.

Anonymous said...

Gee, in my FP
residency we had OB call every 3rd night for 3 years. Most of these we did by ourselves with the OBs coming in if there was a problem (they were collecting the Medicaid whether they were there or not). I personally did well over100 deliveries and 45 with low forceps, and those are just the ones I counted. After graduation I did OB as part of /fp and enjoyed a very collegial relationship with the Obs in town..if somebody needed a c-section they did them and I assisted. My first boss actually completed a FP residency on the Army and did over 100 sections as a resident; he was the only non-OB ever to have section privleges at our hospital (no desire to do this on my part). Course, back then we also assisted on all our general surgery cases as well, since you got paid for that--no global fee stuff in those days. Don't do OB now, but not dead, thanks awfully anyway.

SR said...

I could not agree with you MORE, at least as far as hospital-based practices go. When you train people to know just a little bit about a lot, you get people who know just a little about what ails you. This is good for a physician who plans to take care of a broad spectrum of patients and problems, and who knows when to consult appropriately.

On the other hand, training individuals a little bit within many specialties can result in folks who end up practicing procedures and areas of medicine that they shouldn't.

Where I work, there is an actual Family Practice inpatient ward/service? Run by these "Family Practice Hospitalists," which, for me, is an oxy moron in terms, because isn't the whole premise of family practice that they are a primarily office based outpatient specialty?

Anyway, they run a service, but they "don't do" basic inpatient procedures, like, say, a paracentesis. As a GI fellow, my job ends up being going around doing paracenteses for them, because "they don't do them." On the other hand, they DO do their own stress tests, which really, let's be honest, are better left to the cardiologists to interpret.

I agree that in a rural setting you might want an all around doc who can lop out your appendix, treat your rash and diagnose diabetes the next day, but at least where I work, in the Northeast, where there are so many specialits, I think that part of the profession is obsolete...

I agree with Medstudentitis, there are doctors who are very good family practice physicians, insightful, smart - those are people who, for the most part, stick with what they know best: basic primary practice for the whole family.

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Anonymous said...

No, SR, the whole "concept of family practice" is NOT a 'primarily based outpatient specialty." The concept is taking care of the patient, whether they are in the office or in the hospital. This is the way it is in a large part of the rest of the country, partly because no one else (including OB subspecialists) want to go where there is no REI, fancy restaurants, good shopping,etc. but fortunately for people who live there FPs will. And for the record, in my family practice residency (which was the only one in our regional medical center) they taught us to do paracentesis. And LPs, amniocentcis, and thoracentesis.

SR said...

I realize, care of the patient as a whole, in patient and out, from childhood into adulthood is what FP is meant to be. That's what I meant when I said, "primary care for the patient and family as a whole." What I find a contradiction in terms is a Family Practice Hospitalist. As in, they don't DO office practice. They only see the patient in the hospital. That is the opposite of what you're saying (and what I think) Family Practice is.

I still stand by what I said. Here in the Northeast, we are SATURATED with specialists; you know, oh, you have a hernia. Let's make sure we consult the inguinal hernia team, not the femoral hernia team, and let's not get this confused with the hiatal hernia team... "care of the patient as a whole" falls completely by the wayside.

Also, my commentary on what the FP service does where I work was just a commentary of what happens where I work, not of the specialty as a whole.

dr. bean said...

SOME FPs behaving badly is nothing new and scope of practice is always a sore spot in the nature of the case. I'm sorry you've been so burned in the situation you're in now. I'm afraid when it comes to your opinion of FPs recent experience trumps prior experience and negative experience trumps positive experience. Not exactly scientific, but it's the nature of human psychology.

You hit the nail on the head when you talk about the financial pressures we FPs are under however. I have been in the same rural community for 12 years and I am making 25% less now per year than when I started. Partly it's because I refuse to compromise on prioritizing prevention and spending enough time with patients, not to mention time communicating with consultants. Some of the problem is probably market share as well, as our community has grown and attracted more physicians, more specialties and more mid-level providers. I am giving up my (low risk!) ob practice this year --I could move again to get more rural, but have to balance that with knowing I would be uprooting my spouse and kids from their beloved home town. Also, I have developed a long term reputation here as a damn fine doc.

dr. bean said...

P. S.

What's "DVR" that I don't have here in the sticks? I have a video recorder, I got it from Tar-getdotcom.

Anonymous said...

I'm interested, and wonder if you're talking about the Alaska Family Medicine Residency. If so, I'm surprised that none of the current residents are headed to rural practice. What's the point of it then?

I live out in Bethel (I'm assuming from the names in this post, you're familiar with Alaska) and right now we have an OB on staff 3 out of 4 weeks. Though most of the deliveries go to family practice docs... I'm glad that we have some on staff that can do a c/s if the occasion arises.

Tradeoffs to living in an insanely rural area... I do sometimes wonder how my care during a pregnancy would be different if I lived in a major city (say, Anchorage) vs. out here.

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Anonymous said...

I live in not-so-rural AK (Juneau) where midwives do a significant portion of low-risk births (out-of-hospital) and FPs do the full range of hosptial births, including sections. The only OBGYN in town does not deliver babies anymore. As a woman who chose the midwife route during my two pregnancies, I would really have felt better if our town had an OBGYN next door in the hospital waiting for me if something went wrong. I agree that midwives and FPs should be doing low-risk birth and OBGYNs should be there for emergencies.

On the FP issue, I sure do hope that the tradition of the family doc continues. There's nothing like seeing one doctor who knows all your kids by name and has the big-picture of who you are and how your family fits into the community. There's no other model that comes close to that for wholisitic, preventative care. We love our family doc!

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westcoastcnm said...

I am currently a student nurse midwife. I have been a labor and delivery nurse for 20 years and although I had 3 of my 4 children delivered by FP's....if knew then what I know now, I would have gone to an ob or a midwife.
What I am seeing in the hospital has changed my mind completely.
If you want to care for low risk pregnant women...become a midwife. If you want to care for low to high risk pregnanct women...become an obstetrician. Period. There is no middle ground of caring for 1-2 pregnant women a month and hoping for a good outcome. If you are going to do something do it all the time and become expert.

Lisa said...

Well said! I don't think the majority of the population understand that it's the procedures that pay. If your eye doctor has done a three day seminar in Vegas it doesn't mean that he or she is actually QUALIFIED to start doing laser skin re-surfacing.

I would never recommend that any of my friends or family go to a family practitioner for OB care.

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Clara Heisler said...

Here at Centreville,family practice still matters to hospitals and physicians and they still do the normal obstetrics and still continues to train medical students and other individuals as far as the hospital practices go.

But then we still need to be aware that some of the hospitals are no longer giving much attention in terms of family practice mainly in rural places.

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Anonymous said...

I think this was an excellent post. as an OB/GYN resident who recently did an elective in the periphery, I was shocked to see a lot of what was happening before our service would be consulted- and I've had similar experiences in tertiary care centres in a few different Canadian provinces. FDs often give a much better patient experience during a normal delivery, but when things go wrong, if I were in my patient's place I'd want someone who could handle it right away.

Otoscope said...

I guess, every doctors have there own specialty that they are really good at. Just for instance are primary care doctors are quite different from surgeons and urologists. They have different specialties. However, there are times especially on poor countries and places that primary care doctors have "no choice" but to do all the specialties of different doctors. There are cases that this truly happened, eh. And actually I don't know who or what to blame with regards to this.

James said...

Hey MWAK, are you still out there. I used to follow your blog back in 2006-2008. I see it's been a year since this last post denegrating FP's. I'm a new FP attending who plans to do OB myself. I think this last post of yours raises a whole bunch of great issues. Good comments too. I won't go why I went into FP here but, I am constantly plagued by feeligs of inadequacy as a family practitioner. In many ways I agree, there's no reason for my specialty to exist. As Sara pointed out above, I do think NP's and PA's will eventually replace us. Fortunately, I think I'll be well into my career when that happens. Anyway, if you're still out there, drop me a line. And you should clean up some of the spam in your comments too :)

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